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1000 Meridian 'Gold Standard' Carbon Credits
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Reserve met
- Closed: Tue 11 Sep 2007, 4:07 pm
- Listing #: 116638198
FOR SALE by Meridian Energy - 1 x parcel of 1000 Gold Standard Verified Emission Reduction (VER) carbon credits (tonnes) from Meridian Energy's Te Apiti wind farm.
The Te Apiti wind farm is the first in the world to have been registered by the Gold Standard Foundation. This demonstrates the highest quality renewable energy development taking into account cultural, environmental, social and economic issues. The 2006 carbon credits have been issued by the Gold Standard Foundation.
(further information about the Gold Standard is available at www.cdmgoldstandard.org).
The project baseline and the 2006 emission reductions have been validated by UN accredited independent agency Das Norske Veritas.
The purchaser may choose to use these voluntary carbon credits for the carboNZero programme. The carboNZero programme run by Landcare Research will also recognise these carbon credits subject to its usual terms and conditions (refer to www.carbonzero.co.nz).
At the close of the auction, the purchaser will have to enter into Merdian's VER Sales Agreement. The principal terms of this Agreement can be viewed on the Emissions Trading section of Meridian Energy's website www.meridianenergy.co.nz
This purchase of carbon credits will then be transacted in the M-co Registry by way of a transfer of the credits out of Meridian's account into an account opened by the successful bidder. The credits purchased will then be available for immediate retirement, unbundling, or holding as a potential investment.
The Te Apiti wind farm is the first in the world to have been registered by the Gold Standard Foundation. This demonstrates the highest quality renewable energy development taking into account cultural, environmental, social and economic issues. The 2006 carbon credits have been issued by the Gold Standard Foundation.
(further information about the Gold Standard is available at www.cdmgoldstandard.org).
The project baseline and the 2006 emission reductions have been validated by UN accredited independent agency Das Norske Veritas.
The purchaser may choose to use these voluntary carbon credits for the carboNZero programme. The carboNZero programme run by Landcare Research will also recognise these carbon credits subject to its usual terms and conditions (refer to www.carbonzero.co.nz).
At the close of the auction, the purchaser will have to enter into Merdian's VER Sales Agreement. The principal terms of this Agreement can be viewed on the Emissions Trading section of Meridian Energy's website www.meridianenergy.co.nz
This purchase of carbon credits will then be transacted in the M-co Registry by way of a transfer of the credits out of Meridian's account into an account opened by the successful bidder. The credits purchased will then be available for immediate retirement, unbundling, or holding as a potential investment.
Please read the questions and answers for this auction.
Shipping details
- Free shipping within New Zealand
- Seller allows pick-ups
- Seller is located in Christchurch City, Canterbury
Payment details
- NZ bank deposit
About the seller
- 100% positive feedback
- Member since Aug 2007
Closes: Tue 11 Sep, 4:07 pm. 2007 This auction used auto-extend. 
Questions and answers
Are these compliant with the Kyoto Protocol?
Could these units be used to offset emissions in another Annex 1 country like Japan?
kearidge (5 
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12:15 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Are these compliant with the Kyoto Protocol?
Could these units be used to offset emissions in another Annex 1 country like Japan?
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12:15 pm, Tue 4 Sep
These credits can be used in the international voluntary market to offset emissions. Unfortunately they cannot be used by countries to meet their obligations under the Kyoto Protocol.
12:56 pm, Tue 4 Sep
These credits can be used in the international voluntary market to offset emissions. Unfortunately they cannot be used by countries to meet their obligations under the Kyoto Protocol.
12:56 pm, Tue 4 Sep
In order to stimulate interest in the New Zealand carbon market and create a bit of excitement we put these on for $1 reserve - so there is no buy-now price.
1:00 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Hi. Am I bidding for 1 tonne or the total package? Cheers, Steve
stephen_summer (1268 
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12:20 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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12:20 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Thanks Steve, you are bidding for the total package - so a bit of a bargain at the moment!
1:01 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Seller Comment: For anyone who wants more detail please see our website http://www.meridianenergy.co.nz/AboutUs/Emissions+trading.htm
2:29 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Wasn't Meridian Energy given privately owned forestry carbon credits in 2004 which they sold to a Swiss Company for $9 million to fund wind farm projects? Isn't this public sale of the resulting generated carbon credits an example of a SOE determined to rort as much financial advantage from New Zealanders for something it never owned in the first place?
tynwald (429 
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4:09 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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4:09 pm, Tue 4 Sep
No, we were not given any privately owned forestry credits to sell. The Verified Emission Reduction Units (VERs) arise out of the Te Apiti wind farm project. The project was deemed by the Government to be additional to business as usual and would displace thermal generation. See above for answer on additionality and you may want to go to our website for more info on the projects.
4:40 pm, Tue 4 Sep
But the Govt has given these credits to you, an SOE, having stollen same from foresters like me! You are trading something that is not rightly yours. This stinks.
andy20020 (240 )
6:16 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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6:16 pm, Tue 4 Sep
We understand foresters have some conerns. These VERs represent emissions reductions from the electricity sector and are the result of renewable energy projects being brought forward. The forestry issue around Kyoto carbon credits is quite separate.
5:01 pm, Wed 5 Sep
This will be one of histories biggest cons! You are throwing your money away if you bid on these auctions. There is no such thing as man made global warming and eventually the credits will be worth nothing. Although... any warming would be nice! It’s snowing here in Canterbury today.
tomacco (142 
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6:17 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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6:17 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Cheers.
5:02 pm, Wed 5 Sep
How, exactly, does the sale of carbon credits actually reduce CO2 emmissions?
matahari (141 )
6:28 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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6:28 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Please see previous answers.
5:02 pm, Wed 5 Sep
A précis from Meridian's 2006 annual report: The revenue from the sale of carbon credits awarded to us by the Government was a key factor in Meridian Energy’s commitment to build a wind farm. In 2005 we sold these credits worth more than $9 million to a Swiss-based foundation. Do you still claim not to have funded wind farm development with credits that were legitimately owned by New Zealand forestry investors?
tynwald (429 )
6:28 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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6:28 pm, Tue 4 Sep
We disagree.
5:03 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Why would people want to subscribe to a concept the is designed to deceive them. You have already been given the information dealing with Zero-point energy yet to continue to be the lap dog of the New Zealand Government. All the Proof of the cover-up is on the web site http://www.themeasuringsystemofthegods.com/index_files/Page554.htm and http://www.themeasuringsystemofthegods.com/index_files/Page2861.htm Please take the time to read all of the information, It is a real eye opener.
organ_donor (21 
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6:44 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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6:44 pm, Tue 4 Sep
See answer in other parcel listing - thanks.
5:03 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Good on you for letting NZ's have the opportunity to purchase these items. Good luck.
graysland (72 
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7:02 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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7:02 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Love your work!
5:04 pm, Wed 5 Sep
As your average Joe Bloggs,how will i benefit from buying theses credits for example will it get me cheaper power
chryslerboy (111 )
7:04 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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7:04 pm, Tue 4 Sep
See previous answers.
5:04 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Hi Nikki, I own a home, have a wife and 2 children, no business. If I was to spend 2,3 or 4 grand???? and win the carbon credits, what can I do with them? How will my investment be exchanged for my personal use? I have been to the noted website but does not explain it (my question) clearly. I did see the investment quote but thats a "who knows" type of risk. But seriously what should I do with them if I win them. Thanks, Peter
algi (330 )
7:19 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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7:19 pm, Tue 4 Sep
The previous Q&As across the three auctions should provide you with a pretty good answer. Cheers.
5:05 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Hi. You are a new trader with no previous selling history - how can I trust you? My only option was to Google your name and you seem to have a very dubious past. Care to comment?
scottcrowley (58 )
7:20 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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7:20 pm, Tue 4 Sep
See previous answer in the other parcel listing - thanks.
5:05 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Seller Comment: Thanks for your questions - we'll answer these in the morning. Cheers
7:23 pm, Tue 4 Sep
The compliance costs for our economy that this Kyoto nonsense this going to create will strangle all Kyoto countries. When one allows the finacial markets to solve a perceived environmental problem, there is sure to be a buck in it for someone. China and India do not face such costs, just wait for more NZ jobs to be lost overseas while we shag about and sell carbon credits. I understood that your resource consents for wind farms were to generate sustainable energy, not to speculate such nonsense
valetta3 (31 )
7:33 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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7:33 pm, Tue 4 Sep
Thanks for your comment.
5:06 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Would more benefit to the enviroment be achieved by investing $2500.00 in your carbon credits or by spending $50.00 to replace a house lot of light bulbs with energy saver eco bulbs.
peteford (30 )
7:38 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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7:38 pm, Tue 4 Sep
As Meridian piloted the 1st ecobulb trial with the Electricity Commission, we fully support both initiatives - the purchase of bulbs and our offset credits!
5:07 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Is this a security as defined by the New Zealand Securities Act 1978?
photonz1 (4 )
7:45 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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7:45 pm, Tue 4 Sep
No.
5:08 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Hi. Will I be able to burn these in my woodstove? It's got a wet back so I could heat my water with them at the same time. How many btu's do you think they would produce? Thanks.
imcare (410 )
10:17 pm, Tue 4 Sep
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10:17 pm, Tue 4 Sep
We struggled to understand your question?!
5:08 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Full credit Meridian,"A fool and his money are soon parted." The fools bidding on this dont deserve theirs!
ross22 (93 )
8:41 am, Wed 5 Sep
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8:41 am, Wed 5 Sep
One person’s treasure can be another person’s junk.
4:42 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Would Meridian be prepared to put up a parcel of Kyoto complaint AAU’s or AAU’s converted to ERU’s for the 2008 - 2012 period, say 1 to 10kt pa?
genesis_energy (0 )
9:46 am, Wed 5 Sep
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9:46 am, Wed 5 Sep
Thanks for your question Genesis. If you are not already aware, we are also running in tandem with this auction a ROI for the remainder of our carbon credits. See www.meridianenergy.co.nz for a registration pack. Cheers
4:45 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Not really – we are auctioning the ‘credit’ of carbon that has not been emitted.
4:45 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Thanks for your response. Re Electricity V's Forestry Carbon Credits. The electricity sector is producing more power and using more coal to do so than ever - the Govt Cc grant to you is smoke and mirrors from the Govt your SOE owner. I planted land to grow trees that are definitely returning carbon to the soil (as at 10-12 years I chop out 3 of four trees thin to waste etc etc) Yet this Govt say after 2008 I have to pay $14k a Ha to return my land to grazing It's a joke.
andy20020 (240 )
5:18 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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5:18 pm, Wed 5 Sep
We know foresters have concerns.
4:46 pm, Thu 6 Sep
It is only through ignorance that your comments are born you do not have the capability to understand Zero-point energy as you are a victim or fraudulent science. Vedic Physics is the suppressed key to Zero-point energy and the industrial secret of Sony Microsoft and Boeing.
http://www.themeasuringsystemofthegods.com/index.htm
organ_donor (21 )
5:21 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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5:21 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Thanks
4:46 pm, Thu 6 Sep
There are a lot of grumpy fellas out there, and the odd "forrester" who doesn't seem to understand the system. I think it's great you're offering people the chance to offset their emissions in this way - it's a shame all these idiots think it's about the dollar value! What part of "voluntary payment" is so hard to understand?! Virgin Blue offers this for their flights, I was glad to have that opportunity...
Thank you, and keep building those wind farms..
mpilott (21 )
6:31 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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6:31 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Cheers
4:46 pm, Thu 6 Sep
It's free shipping on this auction!
4:47 pm, Thu 6 Sep
If I purchased these credits how do I quantify the useage of them? If I used the whole amount of credits in a 8 month period what will they be worth then?
format11 (65 )
7:11 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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7:11 pm, Wed 5 Sep
If you are successful in the auction and used the whole amount of your credits in an 8 month period to offset your emissions all the units would have been retired. We cannot predict what the value of any remaining credits would be at that time.
5:07 pm, Thu 6 Sep
These "voluntary" carbon credits are a load of worthless rubbish. I do not believe that any serious bidder would pay you anything for this nebulous nonsense. Have your pals been bidding up the prices? Kyoto is an international con. What have you to say to that? Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go and burn some old tyres in my back garden. How much will you pay me not to do this?
bill1958 (95 )
7:14 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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7:14 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Thanks for your comment.
5:08 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Am I able to unbundle these credits and sell them in lumps of say 50 or 20 credits? Thanks
tommydeee (71 )
7:57 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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7:57 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Absolutely - you can unbundle these into any quantities you like - down to individual units. Each unit has its own unique identifier and will be registered under the M-co 'Regi'registry.
5:10 pm, Thu 6 Sep
I am a farmer, apparently my animals belch Methane, that concerns Jeanette Fitzsimmons greatly. If I feed my sheep nice green grass and one carbon credit each day, will they stop farting?
valetta3 (31 )
8:16 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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8:16 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Don’t hold your breath!
5:11 pm, Thu 6 Sep
What is the total number of carbon credits that Meridian hold's at present ?
barcelona1 (811 
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8:23 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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8:23 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Under the Registration of Interest tender that Meridian is holding in tandem to this auction, we have 217,500 Gold Standard VERs from Te Apiti and Whitehill. There are other carbon credits available as well. Details of the ROI can be found on our web site.
5:17 pm, Thu 6 Sep
How many carbon credits did Meridian sell for $9m NZD ? or was it $USD ? or Euro
barcelona1 (811 )
8:27 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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8:27 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Sorry, this is covered by a confidentiality agreement between ourselves and the buyer.
5:23 pm, Thu 6 Sep
I own a small forest and wanted to burn off a whole heap of slash . Can I tell the District Council where
to go if I purchase this 1000 ton of allowable pollution ? and then can I do it again next year ? Does the council have a legal right to stop me on the basis of CO2 pollutants ? Credits are for industries that will not tidy themselves up are they not? and credits are a cheaper way to continue to pollute legally weather in NZ or Globally providing that country is a signatory of Kyoto .
barcelona1 (811 )
8:54 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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8:54 pm, Wed 5 Sep
It might be that you need to obtain an independent expert opinion regarding what controls there are on the activity (burning slash) in the (unspecified) district - and the interface of that issue with climate change policy, the RMA and possibly other regulation.
2:11 pm, Mon 10 Sep
Posted - in the interests of transparency!
5:27 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Based on the 20 credit parcels bid at NZD $151 per credit this parcel of 1000 credits should be worth
$151,000 NZD . They look extremely cheap at present ,
or someone cannot use a calculator . My question is
how much did Meridian get per credit in $NZD on the open market to the Swiss Co ? This will allow me to assess weather there is a huge capital gain here, tax
free I assume ?
barcelona1 (811 )
9:12 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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9:12 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Sorry - that is subject to a confidentiality agreement between ourselves and the buyer.
5:28 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Would you swap for say, 10,000 “Bourbon credits”, redeemable at any Kyoto strip bar?
rockeatr (57 )
9:21 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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9:21 pm, Wed 5 Sep
We prefer Single Malt.
5:29 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Well, having read the questions and answers of all three auctions, my only remaining question is about the ability of people to do maths. at the moment this aution is priced at about $10/tonne of carbon, but the 20 unit auctions are much more. BUT this auction is a ood initiative thats works for the small person as opposed big players.
babbles1 (22 )
9:27 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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9:27 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Thanks for your comment.
5:30 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Hi. I am curious...If I purchase these credits and the doomsday asteroid destroys the planet before I can use them all, will I be given some sort of prorated reimbursement for the unused portion?
scentsationsnz7 (384 )
9:30 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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9:30 pm, Wed 5 Sep
You obviously have a good survival plan - maybe we should talk.
5:32 pm, Thu 6 Sep
I would like to offset the 1000 tonnes of emissions that my business produces, for the sake of my green profile and to ease my conscience. In what way do your credits cancel out my emissions? Are you saying that, by building the windfarm, someone else somewhere is NOT building a coal-powered plant? Where is this plant that is being decommissioned? A thought has just come to me: maybe your windfarm will just persuade NZers to use MORE electricity, and there will be NO reduction in fossil fuels?
piers4 (0 )
9:31 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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9:31 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Thanks for your question. For a more detailed explanation of our analysis for future generation options and choices - have a look at our 'OptionsChoicesDecisions' document - available on our website.
5:36 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Will this allow my bio-fuel company to gain a cross credit tax evassion depreciation greater than the propossed flatulance tax that has been in the wind?
katanaman (290 )
9:45 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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9:45 pm, Wed 5 Sep
That might be a question best addressed to the IRD.
5:42 pm, Thu 6 Sep
As I understand it, you "create" these carbon credits through means that defy logic. Then you on sell these "credits" so others can buy their way out of a large carbon footprint. So how does this actually reduce the carbon footprint of the purchaser in REAL terms? because it has not reduced the amount of carbon they still produce!
matahari (141 )
10:16 pm, Wed 5 Sep
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10:16 pm, Wed 5 Sep
Offsetting is a process of neutralising or 'balancing off' a person's carbon footprint. Reduction of CO2 comes about through the projects (such as Te Apiti) that displace thermal generation. See above answers.
5:40 pm, Thu 6 Sep
can you break this up into smaller lots and then resell them ?
also can u tell us how we open a account to have them transfered and what the cost is
looyer (112 )
7:42 am, Thu 6 Sep
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7:42 am, Thu 6 Sep
Yes you can break these up into smaller parcels. If you win the auction, you will need to register on the M-co 'Regi' site and there will be no cost for registration or transfer for these auctions.
5:49 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Yes
3:34 pm, Fri 7 Sep
Shipping costs are free within New Zealand
3:35 pm, Fri 7 Sep
I don't understand what you mean when u say these can be used in the "international voluntary market to offset emissions." Why would any comapny do this cause it would cost money? what is the international voluntary market? also you said "Unfortunately they cannot be used by countries to meet their obligations under the Kyoto Protocol" so does that mean in 08-12 when ppl are trying to reduce emissions that no one will want these cause they wont count?
looyer (112 )
6:35 pm, Thu 6 Sep
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6:35 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Would it not be a better option to actively reduce carbon emissions rather than "offset"? because you are not actively removing carbon from the atmosphere. Also, when the wind stops blowing, is it thermal or hydro that is put into "spin" mode? If it is hydro, why replace one renewable energy with another? and if it is coal or gas, is the power plant actually shut down? and if so, how long does it take to restart it? or does it just keep on running to avoid restarting?
matahari (141 )
6:36 pm, Thu 6 Sep
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6:36 pm, Thu 6 Sep
You also sold some to Holland govt and Christchurch Council where these voluntary as well? can you explain the deal? would i be able to do the same deal with these?
looyer (112 )
6:36 pm, Thu 6 Sep
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6:36 pm, Thu 6 Sep
We have sold Emission Reduction Units (ERUs) to the Dutch Government, which will contribute to their requirements over the first Kyoto committment period. These are not the same as the credits that are posted on Trade Me. The ERUs are Kyoto credits, whereas the VERs are voluntary. The Christchurch City Council had their own agreement with the New Zealand Government through the Projects to Reduce Emissions Programme - see www.mfe.govt.nz for more information.
3:56 pm, Fri 7 Sep
Comment- can`t wait till the end of the auction to see the unanswered questions.
costalot (83 )
7:49 pm, Thu 6 Sep
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7:49 pm, Thu 6 Sep
We are answering all the questions daily.
3:57 pm, Fri 7 Sep
congrats to those trying to initiat a trade in nothing with no effective purpose. Bid, bid, bid while the ones with the one word replies smirk at their handiwork!
keith19 (25 )
8:53 pm, Thu 6 Sep
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8:53 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Thanks for your comment.
3:59 pm, Fri 7 Sep
There is no way of pricing the cost of the impact of carbon emissions on the environment. The sale of carbon credits does not and never will encourages the development of projects that reduce emissions (like Te Apiti). Trademe should be rapped over the nuckles for encoraging/tolerating this rubbish on its site!
"Gold Credits" Yeah right!!
keith19 (25 )
9:05 pm, Thu 6 Sep
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9:05 pm, Thu 6 Sep
Great to see you're engaged in the discussion. Thanks for your comment.
4:00 pm, Fri 7 Sep
Would anybody like to buy my cycle lockers instead? If you bike to work each day, you'll prevent around a tonne of greenhouse gas emissions each year - you could off-set the savings against all the donuts you eat when you get to work - although you'll probably still get stung for fart tax. Good on you Meridian for taking the initiative and being the only forward thinking 'sustainable' power company. www.adlocker.co.nz
webmong (8 )
9:46 pm, Thu 6 Sep
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9:46 pm, Thu 6 Sep
From what I can gather, you have been given these Carbon Credits because you could have burnt coal to make power, but instead decided to build a wind farm? Well, today I was going to plough a paddock and burn lots of diesel, but I decided not to. Tomorrow I might decide not to cut down a tree. So do you think Auntie Helen will give me some carbon credits to sell on TradeMe also???
valetta3 (31 )
10:48 pm, Thu 6 Sep
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10:48 pm, Thu 6 Sep
You could ask.
4:02 pm, Fri 7 Sep
Seller Comment: We have updated our summary of the principal terms of Meridian's VER Sales Agreement to reflect recent advice from the Gold Standard Foundation (www.meridianenergy.co.nz). This advice relates to the process of transferring these VERs in the Gold Standard Foundation's registry, once this is available.
12:12 pm, Fri 7 Sep
Seller Comment: Thanks everybody for the questions - the good, the bad, and the funny! We won't be answering any more over the weekend. If any new points are raised, we will answer these as soon as we can on Monday. Thanks again for participating.
5:10 pm, Fri 7 Sep
Someone has told me that these are only valid for 6 months from the date of purchase. Is this correct?
time2002 (107 )
8:32 pm, Fri 7 Sep
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8:32 pm, Fri 7 Sep
There is no expiry date. What we do know is that various agencies who have authority to ‘retire’ carbon credits may establish their own criteria. In saying that – these VERs are of the highest voluntary carbon credit currently on offer.
2:13 pm, Mon 10 Sep
I am a farmer with large emmissions from my livestock. should i remove all my livestock from my business and start farming grass and get carbon credits for which i can onsell and make money? (If the logic is that you farm wind instead of using coal for power and recieve credits for this)If this is possible how in the world are we all going to eat? Maybe we will all become grass loving vegetarians
johnnyfire (72 )
3:20 pm, Sat 8 Sep
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3:20 pm, Sat 8 Sep
While Landcare may estimate that you have 217,500 tonnes of C offsets available for sale, are you holding some units back to offset the Carbon emissions from Meridian's own Coal fired steam plant in downtown Dunedin (EFI -Energy for Industry), the heat plant that supplies the Hospital, the large muti-national Chocolate factory and Otago University?
snowboarder04 (12 )
11:00 am, Sun 9 Sep
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11:00 am, Sun 9 Sep
hey Im keen on skiing .........how many of these credits would I have to buy to make it snow in the manawatu?
jonopersson (15 )
5:25 pm, Sun 9 Sep
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5:25 pm, Sun 9 Sep
biggest scam this side of the black stump, if i thought selling these carbon credits would retard global warming id be all for it, but it wont. its just another greed tactic from the fat cats that wanna get fatter
boomboombas (157 )
6:44 pm, Sun 9 Sep
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6:44 pm, Sun 9 Sep
i know this wont be answered, but what a scam! global warming is the biggest bunch of bs the world has ever seen and you people are cashing in. anyone who even bids on this junk is a idiot
mikesmopar (25 )
6:46 pm, Sun 9 Sep
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6:46 pm, Sun 9 Sep
Not forgetting the energy required to produce the supporting towers .And last but not least the energy required to ship from point of manufacture then the energy used for the required infrastructure to install and maintain the proposed wind farm .This then raises the question.. Are you selling the credits to negate all of the above??
zook (119 )
9:58 pm, Sun 9 Sep
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9:58 pm, Sun 9 Sep
This auction seems based on the premise that CO2 is bad. CO2 is in fact an essential trace gas necessary for life and biodiversity on earth. It currently makes up 0.038% of all the gases in the atmosphere, yet we're supposed to believe that it will cause a catastrophic runaway warming of the planet. The temperature effect of CO2 in the atmosphere is minor and is logarithmic, that is each additional unit of CO2 has less effect than the one added before it. It seems you know little about this.
annoyed82 (2 )
9:42 am, Mon 10 Sep
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9:42 am, Mon 10 Sep
What's the difference between Carbon offsets from wind farm offsets and hydro electric generation station offsets? Surely your Waitaki river system plus Manapouri offsets a lot more of Huntly's coal generation than any windfarm ever will? Do you propose to sell offsets from the Northbank Waitaki hydro system if it goes ahead?
snowboarder04 (12 )
5:40 pm, Mon 10 Sep
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5:40 pm, Mon 10 Sep
I don't wish to be negative and are more than happy to encourage rational measures to help mitigation of environmental problems and issues just feel that this auction isn't worth the paper its written on.
Oh and yes, back from your weekend off! well then answer the damn letters and don't insult the system with your indifference
keith19 (25 )
5:58 pm, Mon 10 Sep
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5:58 pm, Mon 10 Sep
One serious problem with the whole idea of carbon credits, voluntary or otherwise, is that if a large amount of money is invested in them, there will be a large pecuniary interest in keeping the human induced global warming myth alive long after it is found to be nonsense.
Do you have a comment on this?
bill1958 (95 )
6:34 pm, Mon 10 Sep
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6:34 pm, Mon 10 Sep
Hi again, after reading up on this complete subject, This is quite an EMBARRASSING auction/idea for MERIDIAN & TRADEME. What you are effectively selling is the right for someone ELSE to pollute the enviroment by the "offset" of your carbon credits! Disgusting! It would be more beneficial for you to publicly KEEP your (FREE) credits, DISPLAY them, and BE PROUD OF THEM ! than to sell them.. Shame on you, I hope this goes down as the farce it is.
mozwart (301 )
9:06 pm, Mon 10 Sep
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9:06 pm, Mon 10 Sep
Does each credit come on its own piece of paper? Hope so, as the wanker that buys these may get some warmth from the fire he lights with them in the end.
lizzie-anne (57 )
9:17 pm, Mon 10 Sep
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9:17 pm, Mon 10 Sep
Would it not be a better option to actively reduce carbon emissions rather than "offset"? because you are not actively removing carbon from the atmosphere. Also, when the wind starts blowing, is it thermal or hydro that is put into "spin" mode? If it is hydro, why replace one renewable energy with another? and if it is coal or gas, is the power plant actually shut down? and if so, how long does it take to restart it? or does it just keep on running to avoid restarting?
matahari (141 )
6:59 am, Tue 11 Sep
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6:59 am, Tue 11 Sep
Hi. As i use Meridian's energy to power my electric scooter, wouldn't i therefore be eligible for carbon rebate on my power price? If not, perhaps i should proceed with plans to build a portable high-energy laser that can turn standing forest instantaneously into ready to use matchsticks and wood kindling, and purchase a few of your VERs for our company's 'promotional purposes'.
dvd2 (103 )
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