Lesson learnt , I need a bigger boot. Did some walks around home and thought that's a bit snug , we out for a 5 day hike lasted one and a half days .. I need room for my feet snug is not an option, so they need to go. Brought in a black friday sale half price , this is a $600 boot , have attached full description from torpedo 7. So yeah only 40km on these boots .. if they fit you , then its meant to be , back to the shop for me Oh yeah size USM 10.5