Wintec Dressage Saddles, with Cair Cushion System and Easy Change Gullet, both are 44cm ( 17.5 ) both are in excellent condition near new, with very limited use comes with the wintec cover, brought brand new last year for $1799.00 saddles are now surplus for requirements, lovely comfortable deep seat (more photos to come ) start price is for 1 saddle 1st one purchased can choose which saddle they prefer